Maciej Ceglowski - The Website Obesity Crisis [Web Directions 2015 Keynote]

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Maciej Ceglowski's keynote at Web Directions 2015 on the growing bloat of web pages. He argues that sites have become far heavier than their content needs and makes the case for restraint and speed.

HN people go back to it whenever they run into fat, slow pages, as a witty and still pertinent argument for serving only what is essential.

“Really good witty talk on 'The website obesity crisis'. Must watch IMO”

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@throwaway771122021 · in “Second-guessing the modern web (2020)”
Really good witty talk on 'The website obesity crisis'. Must watch IMO: ▶ this video
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@yakshaving_jgt2021 · in “What Does My Site Cost?”
Highly recommend this pertinent and brilliant talk from several years ago: video: ▶ this video text: link
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@leephillips2021 · in “The Website Obesity Crisis [video]”
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@jcynix2020 · in “The mythical “fast” web page”
Fat, slow loading, unresponsive web pages? Maybe it's time again to remember Maciej Ceglowski's "Web Directions 2015 Keynote": The Website Obesity Crisis ▶ this video
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@stjo2020 · in “The Website Obesity Crisis – Maciej Ceglowski”
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@renegat0x02026 · in ““Your frustration is the product””
Reminds me of "Website obesity crisis" - ▶ this video - link Some say that you should not use ad blocker, because that kills ad revenue, but I did not forced anybody to rely with their lives on ad revenue. Many of things were 'free' because we were all just using ad blocks, and then it all became commodified, simplified, so simpletons without ad blocks became a thing. Now they shame people for using ad blocks, even though it stops spreading malware and viruses. I plan to use ad block, and use as many extensions that protect me. If there is some form of goods, be it streaming movies, audio, books I will happily pay for it. I will not accept a web with ads. I prefer touch grass. There is a clear line for me. Also there is no line ad publisher will not cross. The goal posts are shifted, so you will never satisfy shareholder greed. The only pushback is trough ads and probably sometimes piracy. Not that I advocate it, but in reality if companies push too hard, there are consequences.
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@renegat0x02023 · in “Why do software nowadays take so much more memory and processing power (2020)”
It is more true about the Internet. More and more web pages use more bloated libraries, and more complex solutions. There is more data, more communication, more patterns, more services, more styles. If you want a blog there is no need for fancy libraries with a fancy frameworks, probably. I think this could be passed to the whole software / hardware situation. Do you need a fancy desktop? Does not Gnome look better than XFCE? But you want a shiny desktop with nice animations, nice icons. It is also required by the producent for the product to be more complicated and fragile. Now you cannot have offline software. There needs to be telemetry. Therefore there need to be internet logins. Therefore hackers are a higher threat. Why does my calculator on Xiaomi phone need permissions for gathering private data? I know maybe to select some units, but comes on! link ▶ this video link
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@mikae12023 · in “The Website Obesity Crisis (2015)”
Here's the truly obese video and audio version of the presentation: ▶ this video
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@grishka2021 · in “Faster web fonts”
Yeah I mean > This is a good base because it lets website visitors start reading your content right away They're already reading the content. The one job your website had has already been accomplished without the custom font. As this guy[1] said, you first serve what's essential for your website's functionality, and then you stop. [1] ▶ this video