In Search of Tomorrow

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Chris Granger, creator of the Light Table editor, on what programming could look like in ten years. He walks through iterations of his research prototypes for a more human-friendly programming environment, the work that became Eve, ending with a demo of a semantic wiki and personal knowledge tool.

HN people list it among their favorite tech talks on new approaches to programming, praising the prototype iterations as innovative and promising, and its semantic-wiki demo as a model for personal knowledge tools.

“I found them to be very innovative and promising”

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@mpweiher2018 · in “In Search of Tomorrow”
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@seltzered_2018 · in “Ask HN: What is your favourite tech talk?”
#Softwarish - I'm biased a bit more towards interface development: greg wilson - What We Actually Know About Software Development, and Why We Believe It’s True - link steve wittens - making webgl dance - the title is deceptive, it's in some ways a visual crash course in linear algebra - link glenn vanderburg - software engineering doesn't work - link chris granger - in search of tomorrow - ▶ this video alan kay - tribute to ted nelson at intertwingled fest - link bret victor - this is already mentioned but if I had to pick one it'd be 'the humane representation of thought' - link #Hardwarish: saul griffith - soft, not solid: beyond traditional hardware engineering - link deb chachra - Architectural Biology and Biological Architectures - link #Getting more meta in technology and history: James Burke - Connections
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@anotheryou2017 · in “Esoteric programming paradigms”
Will Eve ever take off? I like the thoughts behind it. ▶ this video very good talk about the background of eve. When he finally talks about eve you might want to switch to a more recent talk about it.
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@rafaelferreira2016 · in “Eve: Programming designed for humans”
Seeing Eve's development out in the open is inspiring. Many of the commenters are coming from positions of extreme skepticism towards new approaches to programming, probably justified by the history of the field, but I'd recommend to spend some more time looking into the research idbknox and his team have been conducting (see ▶ this video for instance) and how much they have iterated based on user experimentation. A few questions come to mind now: 1 - This new demo, with the messaging app sample, and references to "my pm wants this or that" seems to point a change in positioning, from targeting non-programmers to professional programmers. Is this accurate? 2 - Is there a plan to integrate the grid-style or the adlibs style UI into this new iteration? 3 - If non-programmers are still a target, it seems to me that the ease of importing data from external sources would important to reach broad usage. Any research here? 4 - Html and css might be a hurdles for new users, any way Eve will help on this front? (edited for formatting)
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@kybernetikos2016 · in “Eve: Programming designed for humans”
I absolutely loved the semantic wiki stuff that was shown towards the end of the "In search of tomorrow" video. This seems fairly different to that system. Is there a write up/talk about why you changed? Is there anything like that semantic wiki thing available for me to use? ▶ this video
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@lewisl90292016 · in “HARC”
Eve [1] is one project I know of that has been trying to tackle this very difficult problem. The project is led by Chris Granger, whom you might know from his work on the Light Table IDE [2]. They released a video last year that showcased some iterations of their prototypes and I found them to be very innovative and promising: ▶ this video [1] link [2] link
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@michaelwww2016 · in “Stencila – Spreadsheet-like live reactive programming environment”
This article reminded me of an interesting video by Chris Granger, co-author of the Light Table code editor, titled "In Search of Tomorrow: What does programming look like in 10 years?" He's designing a visual/code block hybrid editor. ▶ this video
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@maryrosecook2016 · in “Ask HN: Which people and groups are researching new approaches to programming?”
Which people and groups are researching new approaches to programming? I'm interested in groups who are thinking about the next thirty years, rather than the next five years. Some projects I find interesting: * Subtext by Jonathan Edwards: link * Apparatus by Toby Schachman: link * Bret Victor's explorable explanation and introspectable programming demos: link * Eve by Kodowa: ▶ this video * Scratch by the MIT Media Lab: link * Mathmatica by Wolfram Research: link Why am I interested? I'm working on Code Lauren, a game programming environment for beginners: link I want to learn as much as possible about work done by others in the same area.
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@giblet2015 · in “Why does programming suck?”
A talk by Chris Granger in Dec 2015 trying to answer "What does programming look like in 10 years?" was interesting. <▶ this video> A recent iteration <▶ this video> looks wiki-like.
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@dangoor2015 · in “The Sad State of Personal Knowledgebases”
Chris Granger's latest experiments with Eve (github.com/witheve) look surprisingly like a semi-structured personal knowledge system. Take a look at the last 15 minutes or so of this video for a demo: ▶ this video (the whole video is interesting for the evolution of it)
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@lewisl90292015 · in “The Sad State of Personal Knowledgebases”
I just came across this a few days ago on HN: ▶ this video link Eve, the new "programming" tool developed by Chris Granger of Light Table fame, looks absolutely amazing for this use case. I personally can't wait to try it out.
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@rwosync2015 · in “In Search of Tomorrow: On the Future of Eve IDE [video]”
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