Demonstration of 4-Row Janko Keyboard

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A demonstration of the four-row Janko keyboard, an alternative piano keyboard layout, played by Paul Vandervoort. It shows that a piece can be played on a re-laid-out keyboard instead of the standard one.

HN people use it as the example of an alternative keyboard in action, in threads on isomorphic keyboards, odd layouts and whether a different interface makes a different instrument.

“Here's [3] a cool demo by a Jankó virtuoso.”

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@carapace2024 · in “Hexsheets: Hexagonal Spreadsheets”
Come for the hexagonal spreadsheet, stay for the Jankó keyboard! link ▶ this video
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@vo2maxer2019 · in “Demonstration of 4-Row Janko Keyboard (1986) [video]”
Submitted the video to Hacker News.
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@jacquesm2019 · in “Demonstration of 4 Row Janko Keyboard [video]”
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@metaxy22014 · in “Programming on a Piano Keyboard”
There's actually a whole class of keyboards like this [1], the most popular being the Jankó keyboard [2]. Here's [3] a cool demo by a Jankó virtuoso. [1] link [2] link [3] ▶ this video
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@thomastjeffery2020 · in “Pianists for Alternatively Sized Keyboards”
> How do you look at that and figure out where C is? The same way you know which C is "middle C". Alternatively, color the keys differently. Alternatively, shape the keys differently, or add a distinguishing part to some, like the nubs most computer keyboards put on f and j keys. > We need some patterns in order for our brains to be oriented to the instrument. Yes, but they don't need to be messy ones. Consider a guitar: excluding the two thinnest strings, each string is tuned exactly 5 semitones up from the last. Each fret is one half-step up. Guitar players don't get lost! > You seem to think that making the keyboard more symmetrical, or more uniform, or different somehow, makes it easier to learn. Yes, and for good reason. It means the student can skip learning 11/12ths of the required muscle memory. That's a very significant, and very measurable gain. > The field of music and music instrument technology is alive and well and waiting for your invention. That remains to be seen. In fact, the very article we are discussing shows how difficult it is to make the world-changing introduction of a piano with slightly smaller keys. > Also, altered dominants and the various minor modes, in addition to the major scale modes I mentioned. Yes that adds up to probably 300 or 400 scales. Which takes a lot of work, regardless of whether you have a standard keyboard or a WWWWWWWWWWWW keyboard. And then you multiply that 400 by twelve, and you learn just how much muscle memory is required to play the piano. Since you seem to think this is such an impossible task, note that it has already been accomplished: ▶ this video The only way Janko's keyboard is not fundamentally superior is that it isn't widely available.
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@thomastjeffery2020 · in “Pianists for Alternatively Sized Keyboards”
> You're asking for a different instrument, which would reduce hand spans to half their size when compared to an orthodox keyboard. This would change completely the tonality of the instrument such that it would be barely recognisable. Nonsense. This is a "different instrument" "barely recognizable" from the traditional piano? ▶ this video Having a different interface does not make something a totally different instrument. It's still an assortment of keys that are pressed to swing hammers at an assortment of strings. We change the shape of the string assortment all the time, yet no one complains that an upright isn't a piano because it's "barely recognizable" when compared to a grand. This also stretches well outside the realm of the piano. Everything from synthesizers to xylophones take on the traditional piano keyboard shape. > You need NO theory or notation to become highly proficient. This is no excuse. I wasn't presenting an "excuse". I both know musical theory and am proficient. This isn't about me. I was presenting the similar inefficiencies that exist in piano keyboards and western notation. This is about every person who wants to learn a piano. They are all confronted with an antiquated and inefficient interface for no reason outside tradition.
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