Pop an ollie and innovate! | Rodney Mullen | TED

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Skateboarder Rodney Mullen's TED talk on innovation. He talks about how skateboard tricks are invented and shared, and compares the culture of skating, with its trespassing and collaborative building on each other's ideas, to hacking and open-source communities.

HN people recommend it as an inspiring talk on following your creativity, and as the right person drawing the comparison between skaters and hackers.

“If anyone’s in a position to draw such a comparison between skaters and hackers, it’s the Godfather of skateboarding.”

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@iam_takada2018 · in “Ask HN: What is your favourite tech talk?”
Talk on innovating in your field by Rodney Mullens: ▶ this video Grew up playing Tony Hawk. His talk really inspired me follow my creativity.
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@thecosmicfrog2023 · in “Rodney Mullen: Pop an ollie and innovate [TED talk]”
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@mescaline2022 · in “Pop an Ollie and Innovate”
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@psychomugs2021 · in “Skateboard Tricks and Topological Flips”
Rodney has a great TED Talk where he aptly compared the skateboarding and open-source communities: ▶ this video
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@psychomugs2021 · in “The YouTube revolution in knowledge transfer (2019)”
This has been extremely pronounced with skateboarding. Technical tricks that used to take years to land are now being done effortlessly by kids filming throwaway clips shot vertically on their phones. Rodney Mullen, the godfather of basically every trick that involves jumping up and flipping the board and landing on it, has a great TED Talk on epistemology in skateboarding [1]. The biggest block is often just to see proof that something can be done. He also draws apt comparisons with the open source community. Interestingly, he apparently invented a lot of his tricks in isolation on a farm; some genius thrives in the woodshed. Thinking in McLuhanisms, these new mediums have undoubtedly extended epistemology in very revolutionary ways, but it's definitely amputated them as well. The dime-a-dozen landscape and portrait photos that are nigh indistinguishable, the wild west of the content treadmill economy, and the anxiety of influencers [2]. [1] ▶ this video [2] link
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@lloeki2020 · in “Skate Warrior 1992, 1999, 2020”
Cue Rodney Mullen’s TED talk: “Pop a Ollie and Innovate!”. If anyone’s in a position to draw such a comparison between skaters and hackers, it’s the Godfather of skateboarding. Also, “This is Eric Koston”, the comparison is indirect, but the section around “we’re trespassers” resonates deeply. ▶ this video link
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@ridv2020 · in “For Donald Knuth, good coding is synonymous with beautiful expression”
Really awesome seeing someone talk about skateboarding here on HN as it relates to the subjects covered by Knuth in this article. I grew up skateboarding and I credit the years those years with a huge amount of learning I didn't even know I was doing. To expand upon what you said: it's amazing when you take that trick, a kickflip for example, and you're so confident in your consistency, that you apply it to something new. Kickflip to rock to fakie, kickflip down a set of stairs, kickflip to 50-50, and so on. The consistency you gain from that trick opens up the door to a whole new world of combinations. There's so much about skateboarding, the culture (or counter culture in some cases) around it that translate so well to programming/hacking (and life in general). The trials of learning something new. The acceptance and overcoming of failure. The respect you shown and earned when you're at the park and you or someone else puts down a sick trick. One of my favorite creative minds in skateboarding, Rodney Mullen, talks a bit about the relationship between hacking and skateboarding in his TED talk. [1] [1] ▶ this video
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@sbr4642018 · in “What coders can learn from Rodney Mullen”
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@_neil2016 · in “Thrashed – Jake Phelps has run the bible for skaters for more than two decades”
Along the same lines, Rodney Mullens' TED talk[0], where he discusses hackers and open source, is really fun to watch. [0] ▶ this video
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@lloeki2021 · in “Tony Hawk on his skateboarding legacy”
Hmm, not too sure about that comparison, Tony Hawk is really good, but to me a Carmack of skateboarding would be some one more like Rodney Mullen or Daewon Song. See e.g how Mullen explains his fundamental approach to skateboarding in "Pop a ollie and innovate". ▶ this video
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@lloeki2018 · in “Snow shovelling can kill”
I'm on to 37 and started skateboarding 10 months ago. Took back my way to block climbing which I didn't practice for 15 years. Also started calisthenics. This is after a sizable weight gain and huge drop in fitness down to rock bottom. I was quite athletic when I was 18-22, but stopped doing sports with any regularity around 23-25 and gradually degraded physically. Some day around 32 I woke up and felt so bad in my own body I decided to put an end to this over the next 7-10 years (since it was the time I took to dig myself into that hole I figured out it would take about the same time to reliably dig myself out of it), changed my diet (this is key!), and started running, which I hate, but basically the only thing I could manage to do. Went like 500m at a ridiculously slow pace (something like 10min/km) and started puking right on the sidewalk. This is when I really realized Things Were Definitively Not OK, and that all the parties and fun and eating and drinking we're not worth that. End result seven years later, lost the 20kg I had in excess, ran 18km in 1h30, stopped running regularly but (now that I'm more solid) swapped for sports I enjoy much more, and I feel so good it's like I could tear walls apart with my bare hands! In many ways I'm in as good or better a shape than I ever was even in my 20s. Random sample of newly met strangers give me between 8-15 years less than my age, and "less than 30, for sure". It's never too late. Pace yourself, one step at a time. Set realistic short term goals, yet look up to the stars because on the long run basically anything is achievable. Your mind will resist change, but it can be overcome. The only obstacle between current you and future you is yourself. Choose what you will become, at every moment, consistently. Fuck if I Ollied down 3 stairs a month ago and I'm now super close to land a tre flip barely a year in, and if that guy[0] can still be at the top of his shape[1] at 51 after having his hip joint basically fuse and fix it through dedicated stretching and exercise (and end up giving a talk where he draws parallels between FOSS and skateboarding), then it tells something about consistency and dedication. [0]: ▶ this video [1]: link
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@lloeki2016 · in “Running Is Always Blind”
Well, yes and no, my experience tells me it all depends on the level of control of your body that you have, and training for a particular task. Learning to ollie is a typical example of that: there are movements that you have to consciously apply, yet the best way to ollie is to not think about it and just do a ollie, as each movement isolated doesn't mean much and it's only when the whole thing connects together that it works [0]. As Rodney Mullen says [1], you can only be conscious about sub-movements that really don't exist by themselves (only as part of a larger move) and connect together to form (and possibly create) a movement or a trick. It's really hard to describe, because mostly you don't really think about it, you just feel it, but at the same time it's a conscious action on your part, kinda like meditation or doing a kata. [0]: Braille Skateboarding - 5 steps to better ollies: link [1]: Rodney Mullen - Pop a ollie and innovate! ▶ this video
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